Former Acting Secretary of the Veterans Administration, Peter O'Rouke, joins the show to talk about his founding of new group, Veterans 4 America First Institute. The group seeks to carry on the legacies of the Trump Administration’s VA policies and looks to have veterans take them further into the next generation of veterans to serve, by having the VA, "make financial decisions... policy decisions, internal process decisions that are focused on and start with the veteran, not the organization."